Dog-fighting news story, a posted comment, a great idea?

I found a news story Monday afternoon on the Montgomery Advertiser website concerning a busted dog-fighting ring. Under the story several readers were debating about how authorities might find the suspects who ran from the scene as law enforcement officials arrived.

But one individual offered a great suggestion that should apply to every case where a dog-fighting conviction occurs. The land where the ring was operating should be seized.

Of course, if the operation was taking place where the landowner had no knowledge of the existence of the activity, forfeiture of the land should not apply. But if the property belongs to any of the individuals involved, the land should be seized and sold at auction, where at least some of the resulting funds would be used to care for the dogs.

I’m wondering if any states currently have laws in place where property can be seized in this way. I know the cars of drug dealers are in some cases taken, but what about land?

Start taking the property of people convicted of torturing animals in a commercial enterprises and maybe these individuals will think twice about engaging in these acts. And maybe their family members will step in to apply some pressure.

I guess the bank holding the mortgage on the house and/or land might have a problem with this, but what happens with a drug dealer’s car loan?

Am I wrong? Have I stepped over the line? Am I suggesting a system that somehow violates the protection of property rights? I don’t think so, but what do you think?

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9 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Kimm Campbell on May 24, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    I think that is a great idea!! What do they do when they seize drug dealers property about outstanding loans etc? I think the same thing should be done when puppy mill operations are busted… seize the property, then they can’t restart.

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    • Posted by Tom Grady on May 24, 2010 at 6:31 pm

      I agree.
      And there’s one way for dog fighters and drug dealers and puppy millers to avoid having their property seized. – Stop breaking the law and stop torturing animals.

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  2. Posted by Miranda Lanoue on May 24, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    It is a great idea. It is something that might actually make people stop and think before they engage in such cruel activities.

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  3. Posted by D Gary Grady on May 25, 2010 at 12:47 am

    In fact, a number of states do indeed have laws in effect permitting the seizure of land as well as vehicles and other assets when used in the commission of serious crimes. Unfortunately, there are cases in which the property has been seized without any due process of law or even a hint, let alone proven culpability, of the property owner, especially in drug case. For example, grandparents who had taken in a troubled grandson lost their house when the grandson (unbeknownst to them) hid some drugs in his bedroom. Boats have been seized when a guest of the owner brought drugs aboard. In the most extreme example I know of, sheriff’s deputies in California raided a farm based on an anonymous tip that it was being used to grow marijuana. This proved not to be true, but when they deputies burst into the home they shot and killed the innocent farmer. Another sheriff’s department was given the job of investigating the raid and concluded that the department that carried it out had done so precisely in hope of seizing the land because the funds could be used for the department’s benefits. Incredibly, they ever brought a real estate appraiser along during the raid. These examples are Internet rumors, alas, I’ve seen them in multiple legitimate news sources.

    By all means seizing property used for dog fighting by a knowing owner should be done and the proceeds used for an appropriate purposes, starting with caring for the dogs. I’m just noting that we need to be careful about such seizures and make sure they’re handled in the just fashion you’re suggesting and not as sometimes been done by overzealous or downright greedy law enforcement.

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  4. Posted by selwyn marock on May 26, 2010 at 1:02 am

    A very good idea,these Scumbags should be hurt in their pockets as well as jailtime.

    smarock10@yahoo.com

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  5. Posted by Kimm Campbell on May 26, 2010 at 2:32 am

    The just released tonite video of the beyond attrocious abuse towards the cows/calves/bulls on the CONKLIN FARMS.. is an example of where there is no fine line, these animals must be seized ASAP if not sooner. The fact that MERCY FOR ANIMALS displayed so little MERCY by allowing this to go on over months boggles my mind.
    I have been on many Dairy Farms.. Ranches.. Hobby Farms… Meat Plants.. and NEVER, EVER have I seen anything like this.
    UNION COUNTY OHIO HAS A D.A, and he is on Facebook and Twitter.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Marysville-OH/Office-of-the-Union-County-Ohio-Prosecuting-Attorney/285923608445?v=info

    http://www.co.union.oh.us

    http://twitter.com/UCProsecutor

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    • Posted by Tom Grady on May 28, 2010 at 8:29 am

      Kimm,
      Thank you for posting this information. The acts of abuse and torture in this case were horrible and it clearly shows the need for better laws and greater penalties for those who engage in these acts.

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  6. Posted by Kimm Campbell on May 26, 2010 at 2:32 am

    The just released tonite video of the beyond attrocious abuse towards the cows/calves/bulls on the CONKLIN FARMS.. is an example of where there is no fine line, these animals must be seized ASAP if not sooner. The fact that MERCY FOR ANIMALS displayed so little MERCY by allowing this to go on over months boggles my mind.
    I have been on many Dairy Farms.. Ranches.. Hobby Farms… Meat Plants.. and NEVER, EVER have I seen anything like this.

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  7. Posted by sherry caruthers on May 31, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    I agree seize the land, vehicles & assets. Then maybe people will think before they commit such a horrid crime.

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