Tucson Greyhound Park – Exposed

Grey2K USA released hidden-camera footage today from the kennel area at Tucson Greyhound Park in Arizona. The pro-racing crowd will see this video and claim these dogs are treated so very well – better than you treat your family pets.

In a KOLD.com news story posted last night,

Tucson  Greyhound Park CEO and general manager Tom Taylor was quoted in the story as saying – ‘They saw what they wanted to see.” And the piece includes this – “” Taylor says Tucson Greyhound Park is one of the best remaining racing facilities in the country.  He calls the kennels an ideal place for dogs. “”

So watch the video and keep in mind this individual notes this one of the “best racing facilities in the county” and Taylor says it’s an ideal place for dogs. If Taylor is right, we need a nation-wide ban on greyhound racing, starting today. He makes a case for shutting it down.

Taylor tries to claim the dogs don’t want to be outside, as if he knows dogs. If he knew anything about dogs, he’d know they don’t want to be caged 22 hours or more each day and he’d know they would much prefer to live with families. If he knew anything about dogs, he’d know these kennels are from being an ideal place for them.

So if it’s about what the dogs want, shut down racing today.

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65 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Caryn Wood on December 23, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    Thank you, Tom Grady, for this insightful blogpost. The investigative video and the news story, including the interview with track management, confirm what Arizonans have known for years: inhumane conditions in the TGP kennels – condoned by track management.

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  2. Posted by Noreen Marshall on January 9, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Tucson Greyhound Park is a horrible place to have any dog live in, the greyhounds kept there are mistreated day in and day out. This Greyhound Park MUST BE SHUT DOWN NOW!!!! To many innocent, beautiful greyhounds have suffered so much at that track all ready – let us stop this madness and shut down the awful park for good!!!!

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  3. Posted by Jan on January 9, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    It’s not just at Tucson, it is at every track and every kennel that houses race hounds. It’s time the public be made aware of this and laws need to be changed. This is how they live and what they eat everywhere, not just in Tucson.

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    • Posted by Tom Grady on January 9, 2011 at 10:16 pm

      Jan,
      These conditions are in place across the board. The constant confinement, the injuries and deaths are terrible and these realities exist everywhere this industry exists.

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  4. Posted by Noreen Marshall on January 9, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Greyhound Racing and all the horrors associated with it must be shown to the public. Too much is kept hidden, it is about time the dirty laundry is aired and than maybe something will be done to Ban Greyhound Racing FOREVER!!!! I for one always let all who ask me know all the ugly details of this so-called sport – I candy coat nothing and never will. Greyhound Racing is cruel, heartless, unholy and a disgusting way to treat these beautiful animals and IT MUST BE BANNED EVERYWHERE FOR GOOD!!!!

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  5. Posted by Tom Grady on January 9, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Noreen,
    Well stated. From your keyboard to every elected official in the land. In fact, it’s long past time for a national ban on dog racing.

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  6. Posted by Wendy on February 23, 2011 at 6:07 am

    You guys are a bunch of idiots. Where is the abuse? They kennels are dark to keep them cool and they wear muzzles so they are protected from each other if they were to fight in the turnout pen? Pet owners use muzzles too! Ask greyhound pet owners around the country. This is not INHUMANE.

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    • Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 12:49 pm

      Inhumane is keeping the dogs in kennels that are too small for them to properly stand or turn around in. Inhumane is keeping them in those kennels for 20 or more hour per day, every day, for several years. Inhumane is leaving an animal muzzled because you’re too lazy to take the muzzle off when the animal is not in a group. Inhumane is keeping diurnal animals in artificial darkness. If you can’t afford to regulate the animals environment, then you shouldn’t have so many animals!

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    • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 23, 2011 at 10:24 pm

      If you cannot see the abuse that happens each and every day at the Tucson Greyhound Track – than all I can say is may God have mercy on you because you cannot have a soul if you cannot see and feel the suffering these greyhounds endure. Open your eyes as well as your heart – than maybe you can see the truth. There is abuse and it needs to stop – WAKE UP!!!!

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  7. Posted by Melony on February 23, 2011 at 8:16 am

    You have to be kidding me… 22 hours or more a day? Just how mentally challenged do you think people are? Really, think about it, people. Put yourself in the shoes of the people in the greyhound racing industry……….. if you are caring for 60 to 80 greyhounds daily, doesn’t it make more sense that you would allow the greyhounds many, many opportunities to go outside every day? It is a whole lot less work to freshen an unsoiled doggy bed than it is to have to clean up urine and/or feces, throw away the old bed (or wash it in the case of carpet bedding). Not to mention, if anything, human or animal, is confined that amount of hours daily, it is impossible to be a fit, conditioned athlete.
    As for security not allowing them in the first time, KUDOS! I bet everyone else, in every other profession, wishes they could park their car at work, unlocked and with the windows down! Security is there and doing their jobs to protect the greyhounds from idiots (because they DO exist). Idiots that would come in and do harm to the dogs, just to get video “evidence”.
    Yeah, Grey2K……. go ahead and lead the weak minded. The people that don’t care to see with their own eyes. If you get enough of them to donate to your cause, well then you all can get nice, fat raises. You don’t tell your cult following that, do you? Another thing you don’t tell your mindless followers… Grey2K does NOT help any greyhounds they displace. Grey2K simply walks away, singing their owns praises BUT THEY LEAVE THE GREYHOUNDS BEHIND, in the care of the very people that Grey2K screams about being unethical, cruel and immoral.
    I own a racing kennel AND am the director of a successful, hard working greyhound adoption program. Unless someone in Grey2K is willing to house, feed and care for the that are under my care and direction…. leave us all alone! We love our dogs, we actually take care of their every need, every day. Go ahead Grey2K, do for the greyhounds what you do best…….. WALK AWAY!
    Your political BS makes me sick. Your ability to brainwash people and turn them into sheep is uncannily akin to Jim Jones of Jonestown. Kool-Aid anyone?

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    • Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 12:52 pm

      The pro-racing folks often spout this nonsense about, “Come and see our kennels”, then Melody says, “As for security not allowing them in the first time, KUDOS!” Which is it going to be folks? You can’t demand that people visit, refuse them access, and then blame those same people for not visiting!

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    • Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 12:56 pm

      “Idiots that would come in and do harm to the dogs, just to get video “evidence”.” Yeah, shining a light into their cages, that’s really going to harm the dogs. Walking around with an ESCORT from the kennel, again, really harmful. See, it’s another example of how pro-racing people use doublespeak. “Come and see, but we’re not going to let you in, so we can blame you for not visiting.”

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    • Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 12:57 pm

      How many of the dogs you have had in your racing kennel do you continue to support after their racing careers? I’d venture to guess not many. No, it’s easier to shove them off on someone else so you can free up space for more racing dogs. But only if they’ll make you more money.

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    • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 23, 2011 at 10:31 pm

      Hate to bust your bubble but greyhounds are left in their cages for up to 20 to 22 hours a day – THAT IS FACT, DEAL WITH IT. If you have no real proof of what you are talking about than PLEASE keep your comments to yourself. I have seen to many horrors at these tracks first hand and I will never stop trying to close every single greyhound track everywhere until my last dying breath. Maybe what you read and heard seems unbelieveable but those are the facts – sad as they are. Greyhounds suffer each and every day and will continue to suffer until greyhound racing is banned everywhere. Grow a brain as well as a heart, start doing something good for a change – stand up for these dogs, learn what they endure and suffer through and join in the fight to help them. Once you really know the facts maybe than you can make an informed comment.

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      • Posted by Melony on February 23, 2011 at 11:52 pm

        Noreen,

        I guess you just blindly follow like the rest of the Grey2K “pack”. If you would have read my post for yourself, you would see that I do know what I’m talking about. I own a racing kennel AND am also the director of a greyhound adoption program. I have been working with these dogs, mostly in the racing side, for almost 20 years. I have trained at several different tracks, in several different states. The MAJORITY of the people working and caring for the racing greyhounds are good, caring people. We love our greyhounds, regardless of their speed and racing abilities.
        I can not deny that there have been and most likely still are, some bad people in the racing industry. There are bad people in EVERY industry. There are school teachers that are child molesters, there have been infertility doctors that inseminated women with their own sperm, unscrupulous police officers, politicians that neglect to reveal where their campaign contributions come from… the list is infinite. Do people stop voting? Do we take the law into our own hands? Do couples that can’t conceive without help just give up and not seek medical intervention? Do we just not educate our children? Absolutely not. We ferret out the “bad” and punish them for their individual actions. We don’t ban their professions as a blanket “cure all”.
        That is one of the many things that really puts a burr under my saddle about Grey2K. The podium Grey2K stands on is too similar to the one that supported the Salem Witch Hunts. Lots of ignorance and too much willingness to just follow like mindless sheep. Your Grey2K leaders are The Pied Piper playing and the the supporters are the unsuspecting, unknowing children… following mindlessly.

    • Come on, Mel – the gig’s up.

      Yes, you know greyhounds, inside and out – better than many do.

      You’ve earned a living from them, via dog racing.

      You also know them as living, breathing creatures who deserve life on the couch with a loving family.

      One of those sentient beings, after racing and living under your charge, now resides on my couch, in this loving family.

      For that, I give you credit, as I’d bet many trainers would have considered him unsuitable for adoption.

      You gave him the chance he deserved, and I thank you for it.

      And many others have been given that chance, thanks to you.

      But then, you turn around and deny an adoption group the opportunity to help other greyhounds like him, simply because of their relationship with me.

      Which is it, Melony?

      I know you don’t want to see greyhounds die.

      But you come to a forum like this one and bash efforts to stop what is killing them.

      It’s time for dog racing to end. These dogs deserve better – and you know it.

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      • Posted by Melony on February 24, 2011 at 1:31 pm

        Jen,

        When Jackie called me, she was looking for a couple of greyhounds, because she didn’t have any for adoption at that time. I was on the way back from delivering two dozen greyhounds to an adoption group. Just to set the record straight. I like Jackie, have a lot of respect for her but in considering her relationship with you, I told her I was not comfortable working with her any longer. YOU are the one that brought me to that decision. You and your lies. Yes, you have one of my retired racers, namely Flupas Phanatic. I’m happy he has a family that loves him and was understanding of his personality. It disappoints me that YOU ARE A LIAR about him, his racing career and the reason he has such a shy nature. Your greyhound DID race… actually had many, many races. Unlike what you have posted in your blog. He was never mistreated in any way, his shyness is just his nature. Much the same as shy children in human families… sometimes a being is just that way because it is how they are. Your greyhound was NEVER in danger of being euthanized… I was searching for either the right family for him OR the right adoption group that would understand him and be supportive of the family that adopted him.
        With all that said, Jen… your lies and twisting of facts is the reason I am not comfortable working with Jackie any more. If you take the liberty of lying about Flupas Phanatic (whom you adopted through Jackie’s group), then I have no choice but to be suspect of you, your motives and the stories you make up about greyhounds.

      • Posted by Tom Grady on February 24, 2011 at 2:47 pm

        Melony,
        When I read your thoughts on Flupas Phanatic and his personality, I see clear evidence of why greyhound racing should be banned.
        Yes, these dogs are all individuals and have self-awareness and state of consciousness.

        With this knowledge, we know it is wrong to cage dogs and force them to live in this way – as a piece of industry equipment. We know a home setting is BY FAR the best setting for dogs to live.

        We also know that because dogs have self-awareness, as you have basically noted, they can be adversely impacted by negative environmental conditions and experiences.
        We have two former racers who have faced sleep aggression issues. One is older now and it took him several years to get over this problem. The other we just adopted late last year and we have to be careful with him and wake up him up verbally.

        I have lived with dogs – from mutts to bassets to greys and more – my entire life and have rescued quite a number of them over the last 20 years. I have never lived with any that had sleep aggression, other than the two greyhounds.
        Fortunately, we are completely committed to rescue and would never return a dog for this reason.

      • Melony,

        Please back up your accusations with evidence.

        I have NEVER lied about our Maddox (Flupas Phanatic), nor anything else for that matter.

        Here is everything I’ve written about him:
        http://jenkrebs.blogspot.com/search/label/Maddox

        I have NEVER stated what I think the reason is for him being a ‘spook’.

        I HAVE in fact stated that I didn’t think it was due to mistreatment by you as his trainer. I made that comment very recently on a news article, in fact.

        I have also repeatedly expressed respect for you for the adoption work you do, and I have also expressed appreciation to Heather for making sure he was adopted.

        You know that there are LOTS of owners and trainers that don’t make sure every greyhound goes to adoption.

        Yes, Jackie’s adoption group was the right group for him – and is the right group for lots of others. It is YOUR choice, and yours alone, to deny other greyhounds the same opportunity to go there and be lovingly, responsibly placed in the right home for each of them.

        Also, you never told me how much Maddox raced. When I looked at him on Greyhound Data, there wasn’t a single race listed for him.
        http://greyhound-data.com/d?d=flupas+phanatic&sex=&color=&birthyear=&birthland=

        Because of this, I assumed he maybe just ran maidens and schooling races.

        When I looked at him on Track Info – which was actually just in the last month or so – that is when I realized how many races he’d run. He ran well over a hundred, in fact. That was news to me.

        I was very surprised by that, because your exact words to me about him when I picked him up at your adoption kennel was that he ‘had the ability, but not the mind’ for racing.

        Whether he ran 1 or 100, it doesn’t matter.
        He could have died during any one of them.

        So, now the record IS set straight.

        You have attacked me personally and my organization on news articles and on blogs repeatedly. You are the one who has told lies – and you’ve done it again today.

        I still respect your adoption work, and I would gladly still support it, as I did in the past.

        (You failed to mention the many times I came to you to get dogs for Jackie – and how every time I brought multiple 50# bags of dog food for you to use for your adoption kennel dogs.)

        And yes, Maddox is absolutely adored and safe here. He IS loved – because we care about these dogs and we want to help them.

        That is the truth, as is everything else I’ve said here and elsewhere.

        I’m looking forward to your response, Melony, providing proof of your accusations.

      • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 27, 2011 at 4:30 pm

        Sorry to inform you Melony but greyhounds are kept in their crates (many times crates too small for a larger greyhound to stand up in or turn around in) up to 20 to 22 hours a day – THAT IS FACT – DEAL WITH IT!!!! Maybe you are one in a few Melony who really care about the welfare of the greyhounds in your care but most do not. I do not have the pack mentality to blindly follow what GREY2K USA has to say without proof – I am speaking from fact, my own personal experiences so I will continue to stand behind GREY2K USA until every single greyhound track is shut down once and for all. Why don’t you go into a business where innocent animals do not have to suffer so you can make a buck. Greyhounds may love to run – but THEY DO NOT ENJOY RUNNING FOR THEIR VERY LIVES. And when greyhounds are racing they are running to stay alive – let’s face it greyhounds are considered “disposable” to all those in the racing industry – wake up and stop kidding yourself if you think that is not so.

  8. Posted by Jenn on February 23, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Wow… uhm… so, let me get this straight. When I go to work, and I leave my hound in a crate, and I leave the lights off in that room to save energy, oh crap! I’m keepinging them confined in the dark!!
    These athletes have a schedule just like we all do. They typically go out at 6am, 9am, 3pm, and 8pm. Sounds like a schedule we all almost keep – when we wake up, before going to work, when we get home from work, before we go to bed.

    I agree – I am yet to see ONE SINGLE INSTANCE where Grey2K EVER, EVEN ONCE, came back to help with the Greyhounds they have displaced. They shut things down, then leave them with the same folks who were caring for them, who now don’t have any money to care for them. Grey2K doesn’t help with adoption hauls, feeding the retired racers or the rescues (THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!), helping clean up after them (from beds to poop to food bowls), nothing. More appropriate name would be Grey2PETA.

    Every track everywhere they live and eat like this? Then you need to visit other tracks and other adoption groups or try to keep up with me one morning at the adoption kennel I work at. I’m known at the OCD kennel worker. Our hounds are even free fed kibble. We encourage families to come play with the hounds, go with us to meet and greets, etc.

    KoolAid sounds appropriate, as do blinders. Blindsided by only seeing what Grey2K wants you to see. You need to see the whole story before you become blind.

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    • Posted by Tom Grady on February 23, 2011 at 9:38 am

      Actually, dogs do not want to be kenneled and often when the greyhounds get into a home, they strongly resist being kenneled. We’ve have adopted six over the years and only one accepted being kenneled at all.
      Once they get into a home and see how dogs are supposed to live, they want to be free. We only use the muzzles when we put multiple greys in the car (in tight quarters) and when we have attended local grey play groups. (We have four rescued greyhounds right now.)
      But this is just one aspect of the topic of greyhound racing. There is also the deaths on the tracks, the thousands that have died each year that are no longer of value to the industry and the rates of cancers.
      The breeding practices of the industry are similar to the breeding practices backed by groups like the AKC – where it’s speed or appearance that drives the business.
      This is why greyhounds and other breeds are experiencing so much in the way of cancers. Recent studies have shown racing greyhounds have the highest rate of osteosarcoma of any breed (large or small).
      I know one family that has lost three rescued greys to osteosarcoma. (And I don’t see the industry stepping in to pay the extremely high costs of the treatments.)
      On the topic of GREY2K, it should be noted that animal welfare includes to basic branches, the groups that rescue and adopt and the groups that work to change the system overall for the animals.
      GREY2K, like the HSUS, is working to end the suffering by promoting legislation and educating the public.
      The rescues need the national and regional organizations working to change the system and the national groups need the rescues to step in and save the dogs in individual cases.

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    • Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 12:46 pm

      Jenn – when the tracks close, the more than 300 adoption agencies in the US are ready and willing to step in and take those greyhounds. Grey2K is fulfilling one mission, that of ending greyhound racing. There are other agencies whose mission is the rescue and rehoming of greyhounds. Would you call the police to put out a house fire? No, because it’s not their job. Same idea here.

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      • Posted by Tom Grady on February 23, 2011 at 4:06 pm

        Eric,
        I’ve never understood this one. I guess it’s because those defending racing have nothing really to go on. So they act as if an organization like GREY2K is not saving dogs – when the mission is to save all of the dogs, through legislation and education.
        Groups like GREY2K and HSUS that can focus on these big-picture missions are important to the animal-welfare cause.

    • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 27, 2011 at 4:46 pm

      You must think you are so funny Jen – many people who adopt greyhounds do crate them when they are away from home, NO ONE EVER said that was wrong. What is wrong is crating greyhounds in dirty, dark, crowded or too small of a crate for hours upon hours with little to no human contact other than to be let out maybe once or twice a day is wrong!!!! Greyhounds are social animals who enjoy human contact and if you for one minute see nothing wrong with the conditions most greyhounds endure during their racing life then I seriously wonder about you. Racing any animals for profit is sick – GREY2K USA is doing what they can to help stop this madness and they do not leave you holding the bag so to speak as you put it once they come in and shut down a track. GREY2K USA has the greyhounds’ best interest at heart. Maybe if you see nothing wrong with racing a greyhound for profit than maybe you should consider a different breed of dog to adopt. GREYHOUND RACING IS WRONG – PERIOD – you need to get the facts right or leave the greyhounds alone. You helping stop people concerned for the greyhound’s welfare do not need people like you around – your views are helping the racing industry and in doing that helping continue the horrors and cruelty greyhounds have to endure. For God’s sake – WAKE UP ALL READY!!!!

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  9. Posted by Heather on February 23, 2011 at 9:26 am

    G2K is bad for greyhounds. No question, no doubt. They’re a bigger threat to greyhounds than racing. That video is ridiculous. I’ve actually been to several tracks and several racing kennels (unannounced and announced)…the dogs are happy and well kept. The snippets they showed are “colored” by that ridiculous sappy, sad sounding music. You can’t have successful athletes if they’re mistreated, neglected and abused. Sheesh. Use your brain, people.

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    • Posted by Tom Grady on February 23, 2011 at 9:41 am

      We have seen so many cases of abuse in the industry over years, along with the memory of thousands that die each year when they are no longer of value to the industry.

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      • Posted by Heather on February 23, 2011 at 9:54 am

        Yeah, and I’ve rescued my fair share of greyhound from the hands of horribly abusive PET owners – and have even saved a couple from “rescue” groups (perhaps you have a blog post on the horrors, abuse and neglect of pet ownership as well…if not, you’re hypocrite). What’s your point? Any time animals and people interact, there’s a chanced for abuse and neglect. This is nothing inherent with professional dog racing (do you also have a problem with amateur dog sports?), this is something that’s inherent with PEOPLE.

        Yes, we need to be at full adoption. No question. But, we’re getting closer every year, mostly in part to the working relationships established between adoption folks, racing folks and track management (often one individual fills more than one of these roles).

        Go ahead and support a ban racing because of potential abuse. But be prepared to give up your own pets one day supporting radicals like G2K, PETA (who’s killed their fair share of animals) and HSUS. Because, trust me, the animal rights whackos will eventually come for them as well.

    • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 23, 2011 at 10:39 pm

      You need to grow a brain if you think GREY2K USA is harming greyhounds, without them more greyhounds would suffer. I can see you really do not know the sad facts behind the greyhound racing industry (all their dirty little secrets) but if you took the time to really do some research you would be appalled at what these beautiful dogs suffer through each and every day. Greyhounds are not considered anything important to care for – they are “money makers” for greedy owners and once they stop making money for their owners they are thrown away. WAKE UP – realize what is really happening and join in the fight to ban greyhound racing everywhere.

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    • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 27, 2011 at 4:56 pm

      Heather you are the one who needs to use your brain – GREY2K USA is NOT BAD for greyhounds, they are only helping to save greyhounds from further abuse and certain death. Please read up on the racing industry or better yet visit a greyhound track – only than will you see the horrors and the awful conditions these gentle animals endure each and every day. My husband and I have adopted many greyhounds over the years, we have fostered countless, we do GUR’s and the conditions of some of these greyhounds we transport back to rescue groups would break your heart. Try telling a greyhound who has such a badly broken hock that the bone is sticking out through the skin that greyhound racing is OK and GREY2K USA should not continue their fight to save them and shut down the tracks. My husband and I have seen way more than I care to remember – we lived these experiences first hand so I do know what I am talking about. The racing industry wants you to believe their BULLSHIT on how well they care for the greyhounds in their care – I only wish that was true but IT IS NOT!!!!

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  10. Posted by Tom Grady on February 23, 2011 at 10:11 am

    I’m working to end abuse and suffering across the board. Just check out a rest of the Pack Mentality Blog.
    There are so many problems with greyhound racing, from the deaths on the tracks to the breeding to the confinement to the discarding of dogs are no longer of value to the industry.
    The industry is already struggling financially, with reduced betting dollars. Is it really going to put what is needed into the animal-welfare side?

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  11. Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Heather – Why is the industry not adopting 100% of greyhounds that the industry itself has labeled as “adoptable”? You claim that the industry gets closer to that goal every year, so what is the problem preventing them from reaching it right now? Please explain.

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  12. Greyhound racing is multi-faceted animal abuse.

    Let’s discuss the first facet – extensive confinement.

    It amazes me that individuals from the racing industry deny the confinement of greyhounds in racing kennels is inhumane – both on the points of length of time as well as the actual conditions.

    Documents from the racing industry confirm these dogs live in cages 20+ hours per day. See: http://www.grey2kusa.org/pdf/G2K-ConfinementFactSheet_2011.pdf

    Here’s something written by a former racing trainer: http://www.greyhoundinfo.org/?page_id=9

    In it, he wrote:
    ‘First turnout lasts about 45 minutes; while the dogs are outside, we clean the kennel, pull all the bedding and check for wet rugs, otherwise known as “couldn’t hold it”.’

    Then he wrote:
    ‘Around 9:00AM we turn everyone out again. After half an hour outside (or less if it’s real hot already), we bring them back in and weigh tonight’s and the next night’s racers (they must be within 1 1/2 pounds of their set weight, over or under, at weigh-in time before the races in the evening, so we can adjust their feed accordingly if they’re in danger of being under/over the limit). Then we feed.’

    And here’s the 3rd turnout:
    ‘We’re out of the kennel by 10:30, and we get back at 4:00PM. After soaking the turnout pens to battle the blazing sun, we give them a quick, 5-minute turnout. It may seem short, but they understand the urgency of it – they run out, do their business, and are all waiting by the gate to come back in within those 5 minutes.’

    And here’s the 4th:
    ‘For non-racers, late turnout is 9:00PM, and they’re out for another good half-hour. It may not seem on the surface like they get out of their crates enough, but in reality, when they go outside, for the most part the whole lot of them are laying down in the sand within 5 minutes anyway, and when they come in, they plop back down and fall asleep right after going in their crates.’

    So, let’s do the math, shall we???
    45 minutes + 30 minutes + 5 minutes + 30 minutes = 110 minutes.

    110 minutes IS LESS THAN TWO HOURS.

    So racing greyhounds are kept in stacked wire cages for 22 hours and 10 minutes, on average, every single day of their racing lives.

    Thanks for clearing that up!!!

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  13. Next, let’s discuss racing injuries and fatalities.

    Oh, wait a minute – the Charleston Daily Mail did that for us just yesterday, huh?

    http://dailymail.com/News/201102211555

    Here are a few highlights:

    — over 3,200 injuries were reported at the Nitro track from the beginning of 2005 to the end of 2010, an average of about 1.4 injuries per day

    — at least 159 dogs suffered injuries that were so severe they had to be euthanized, and at least another 7 died as a result of illnesses contracted in the kennels

    — more than 300 of the injuries were listed as “career-ending,” meaning that the injured dog was never able to race again

    — 750 of the injuries reflected in the records were broken bones

    — over 13 months’ worth of data is missing from the state’s records

    — the numbers could be higher than what is reflected in the records – to date, there is no exact record of the number of injuries at the track for the past six years

    Now, that’s just one track of two in West Virginia – Tri-State.

    The other is Wheeling. Records from the WV Racing Commission showed that –

    — at least 707 dogs were injured in a 21-month period during 2008-2009

    — 62 dogs died or were euthanized.

    In 2010 the injury rate increased substantially, prompting track owners to have the track re-surfaced.

    Following the renovation, injuries actually increased, and the death of 4 dogs in 6 weeks was documented.

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  14. GREY2K USA has also obtained injury records via public information requests for tracks in several other states:

    — In Arizona, according to reports provided by the Department of Racing, more than five hundred greyhounds were reported as injured (404), too sick to race (49) or too hurt to race (87) at two Arizona dog tracks in 2008. Injuries included dogs that suffered broken legs, broken backs, dislocations, amputations and paralysis.

    — In Texas, according to reports provided by the Racing Commission, nearly three hundred and fifty (350) injuries were reported at Gulf Greyhound Park (321) and Valley Park (21) in 2008. Gulf is open for live racing year round, while Valley Park is seasonal, running six (6) months per year. The most commonly reported injuries were fractures, followed by muscle tears. A dog named Frank had a toe torn off, another dog broke his back and they were among the twenty (20) dogs that died while racing or were euthanized post-race. Notably, twenty-eight (28) dogs suffered up to three injuries each. These included Oh Susanna, who fractured her leg twice, once in August and once in November, and was euthanized.

    — Official records for greyhounds racing in the state of Iowa showed that more than one hundred (100) greyhounds were reported as injured at Bluffs Run (70) and Dubuque Greyhound Park (31) in 2008. Bluffs Run is open for live racing year round, while Dubuque is seasonal, running six (6) months per year. The majority of injuries reported were broken legs, followed by muscle tears and two dogs suffered severed tails. Ten dogs were euthanized post-race.

    These are records from just 8 dog tracks.

    Broken legs, broken necks, crushed skulls and cardiac arrest are a few of the many injuries suffered by these gentle dogs while racing. Injury records have proven that greyhounds are dying every day at dog tracks in the United States.

    Injury reporting is not required in Arkansas, Alabama and Florida, states that have a total of 16 tracks out of the 23 now operating across the U.S. There are 13 tracks in Florida alone.

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  15. Finally, despite the dedicated work of several hundred greyhound rescue groups in the U.S., many perfectly adoptable greyhounds are still euthanized every year for treatable injuries or simply for being too slow.

    (Melony, we both know you know that.)

    Fortunately, as the public has lost interest in this cruel and inhumane sport, tracks have closed and the number of greyhounds bred to race has declined.

    According to the National Greyhound Association (the sport’s breed registry), the number of greyhounds registered to race peaked in 1993 at nearly 40,000 greyhounds. Less than 16,000 greyhounds were registered to race in 2009, and that number decreased further in 2010.

    GREY2K USA’s work to close dog tracks SAVES greyhounds.

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    • Posted by Tom Grady on February 23, 2011 at 4:01 pm

      Jen,
      Thank you for presenting this data and the other information concerning the racing industry.
      It is extremely important to continue to educate the public as to what is going on inside greyhound racing.

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  16. Posted by Crystal on February 23, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Wow,

    I can bet my paycheck that all of you people out here downing the dog business and its people bet on horse racing. Now lets talk abuse!!! Us dog people don’t get on the dogs back and whip them with whips to make them run faster. You guys are ridiculous. Go try and shut down horse tracks. Grey2k is a joke!!!! All they do is slander the dog business and walk away from anythihg and everything that comes from what they have done. Howw many people from Grey2k own greyhounds who were uprooted from their kennels after Grey2k stuck their nose where it didn’t belong? I can answer that NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So please find another business to destroy and leave us alone!!!

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    • Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 9:10 pm

      Another fine example of, “You think we’re bad, look at them!” Just because horse racing is also cruel and inhumane doesn’t let dog racing off the hook.

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    • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 27, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      Horse racing is ABUSE AS WELL, I agree totally – that is also a dying industry. You would be surprised at how people are losing interest in betting on horses as well as on greyhounds. GREY2K USA is NOT A JOKE – they are a hope for a better life for greyhounds. As for horse racing I would love to see every single horse track closed as well. I don’t know where you are getting your information Crystal but we need more groups such as GREY2K USA to improve the lives of greyhounds. Please do more research or just visit a track once and if you don’t change your mind on the racing industry I would be shocked. Or better yet do a GUR and bring back an seriously injured greyhound – all you have to do is look into their eyes to know greyhound racing is wrong. If you can not feel the pain that injured greyhound is enduring and can still lick your face as if to say Thank You for helping me than there is no hope for you.

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  17. Oh dear, Crystal – there goes that paycheck!!!

    And you’re going to lose some more, when dog racing ends in the U.S.

    Have a nice day.

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  18. Posted by Crystal on February 23, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    Jenn,

    Well dog racing wouldn’t end in the US if scum like Grey2k kept their nose out of OUR business….I hope Grey2k is prepared to absorb all of the greyhounds that get misplaced due to their actions….I will personally drive them to each individuals house…and then when they refuse to take them, I will go to the media just like they do…All Grey2k is, is a bunch of morons who know nothing about the dog business with nothing better to do with their time them try and make someone else look bad.

    You have no clue people!!!

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    • Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 9:13 pm

      Crystal, your industry is dying under the weight of its own overhead. Grey2K is just helping it along. As for driving the dogs to each person’s home, do you do that now? Do you drive the greyhounds to their new foster or forever homes? There are adoption groups across the country who are willing, ready, and able to absorb any number of dogs from your cruel and inhumane industry.

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      • Posted by Crystal on February 25, 2011 at 4:52 pm

        Well Eric,

        Let me introduce myself. I am the vice president of a greyhound adoption group as well as a kennel owner. As far as your question about me driving them to their new/foster homes, the answer is YES, and I do it on my own time and money. I got numbers…do you?

      • Posted by Eric on February 25, 2011 at 8:19 pm

        Crystal, we have so many numbers it would make your head spin. Do you want to talk about numbers of dogs bred specifically for the industry? Or number of dogs injured each and every year? Or number of dogs labeled as “adoptable” by the industry who are subsequently killed rather than handed off for adoption? What numbers do you have to offer?

      • Posted by Eric on February 25, 2011 at 8:28 pm

        So, Crystal, by virtue of being a kennel owner, you’re generating more dogs to run through your own adoption agency. Personally, I think that makes a significant distinction between your group and other adoption agencies, like the one I volunteer for. We’re not in favor of breeding more dogs into cruelty and inhumane conditions. We want every dog to have a forever home, and that is not compatible with the greyhound racing industry and its breeding practices. Some people may look at you and say, “Oh, wow, how nice – she finds homes for greyhounds.” But then you look a little more, and you realize those dogs need homes because you’re done with them. How convenient that when you’ve finished with a greyhound, you have an in-house way of disposing of it. Honestly, you disgust me with your support of this industry.

    • Posted by Eric on February 23, 2011 at 9:14 pm

      Grey2K doesn’t have to make the dog racing industry look bad, they just have to provide a forum for people like you to shoot yourselves in the foot. You, personally, are doing more to run yourself out of business than anyone else here. Keep it up, Crystal!

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      • Posted by Crystal on February 26, 2011 at 12:55 pm

        Eric,

        First off, you know nothing about me and how I run my business. I place dogs into adoption from my kennel for one sole purpose, to let them retire with dignity and find that very special forever home, not because I am done with them. I love each and every dog that comes thru my kennel as if they were my own. I work tireless hours to make sure they are happy and well taken care of, and when they retire, find them a forever home. You went to school to become whatever you wanted to be when you grew up. So did these dogs, they absolutely love what they do. How would you feel if the tables were turned and someone was trying to stop or put an end to whatever if is that you loved to do. Which in turn led you with nowhere to go? You wouldn’t like that to much would ya?

      • Posted by Eric on February 26, 2011 at 2:01 pm

        You’re right, Crystal, I only know about you based on what you post here. How do you want to characterize your treatment of the dogs, since you object to my wording? The basic fact is, you have dogs in your kennel while they race, and when they’re done, you find them forever homes, freeing up more space for you to bring in more dogs to continue the racing industry.

        As for the “school” these dogs go to, how can you, with a straight face, compare that experience to human education? It’s another ridiculous comparison and feeble attempt at anthropomorphizing greyhounds when it’s convenient to your argument. If you really treated your greyhounds like humans, you wouldn’t incarcerate them for their racing careers. It’s the same as the “athlete” comparison – claiming the dogs are like professional ball players. But at the end of their careers, too many of your “athletes” are killed. But that’s all right, because, after all they’re just dogs. No anthropomorphizing then. And as for them “loving what they do”, yes, greyhounds love to run. They also love to lie on the couch, the bed, go in and out of the house through their dog door, sunbathe, dip in the doggy pool, go for long walks on their leash, and dozens of other activities. But how many of those do your racing greyhounds get to do?

        If my job became obsolete, then I’d get another job, just like everyone else in this country who has lost their job because of changing industries and cultures. You’re not going to get any sympathy from me about losing your job in a cruel and inhumane industry. Perhaps you should look into retraining now, while you still have a job and income, so you’re better prepared when the racing industry does come to its inevitable end. I wouldn’t like to see my job any more than you would, but my job is not part of a dying business that exploits animals, so we’re hardly in the same boat.

      • Posted by Tom Grady on February 26, 2011 at 6:15 pm

        Crystal,

        Actually, greyhounds love to run, but they do NOT love to put their lives on the line in racing.
        You write about the dogs with no where to go if racing ends. What about the dogs the greyhound racing industry has been sending to their deaths by the thousands each year? Where did they get to go?
        What about the high rate of cancers in racing greyhounds? Where do their lives go, for dogs dying of cancer all too young?

        The industry is creating the homelessness in greyhounds, yet you suggest it is someone else causing the problem. GREY2K doesn’t breed greyhounds. GREY2K is trying to save them and also prevent the future creation of homeless greyhounds.
        There is no logic in suggesting it is terrible for the dogs to have no where to go and yet at the same time support the continued breeding of homeless dogs with no where to go.
        We also must understand that dogs have self-awareness and thus suffer both emotional and physical pain and suffering.
        Mankind created dogs and cats as companions and we have a special obligation to make sure they are treated humanely. In homes with loving families – that is the ONLY way to house dogs and cats.
        Greyhound racing, puppy mills, dog fighting, dog auctions, sled-dog racing – it’s all exploitation. Free the dogs to live with families.

    • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 27, 2011 at 5:15 pm

      Crystal – if there was no need to produce litter after litter of greyhound puppies for the racing industry to use to make money on than breeding them would decrease. If you continue to support greyhound racing you are also supporting overbreeding. Do you know what happens to those puppies who don’t make the grade to become racers? Trust me they are not put up for adoption – they are destroyed – THAT IS FACT!!!! Only about 1 to maybe 2 puppies from any litter ever becomes a racer – so that means hundreds, thousands of puppies are put down – to me that is a cruel way to treat a innocent little life. You are the one Crystal who does not have a clue!!!!

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  19. Crystal, you don’t have any clue who anyone at GREY2K USA is, and you come to a public forum like this one and call people you don’t even know ‘scum’ and ‘morons’.

    I guess when you can’t defend your so-called sport, the only thing you have left to do is to try to offend the people working to end its cruelty.

    When you actually have something with veracity to post here and stop name calling, I’ll be happy to debate with you further on the issue of dog racing.

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  20. Posted by Tom Grady on February 23, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    I see things have been quite active here while I’ve been on another assignment.
    Thanks to everyone for offering their input and most of all, for dropping by the blog.
    Greyhound racing really does need to be banned everywhere. People can certainly make a good living in industries that do not exploit animals.
    It’s 2011 and great strides have been made in the study of animal behavior, cognition and self-awareness. We know animals suffer both physical and emotional pain.
    It’s 2011. It’s time for compassion to win the day.

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  21. […] greyhound racing has become such a hot topic on the blog over the last couple of days, on at least one post, I’ve got a little more this morning – from an editorial in the […]

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  22. Posted by Eric on February 24, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    This seems to be the normal process for pro-racers on forums like this – show up, throw out some personal insults, make some outrageous claims, misrepresent themselves and others, and then scurry back into their holes. Of course, it’s hard to hold up your end of a debate when you have nothing to support your pro-racing agenda.

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  23. Posted by john krebs on February 24, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Yup. You hit the nail on the head Eric.

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  24. Posted by Penny on February 25, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    Well I guess I better jump in here since I dont run away to a dark hole. I been dealing with the likes of Grey2K for years. I know all of them and what they represent. I also know they do no place dogs when the tracks close. FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE!!! what i do know is the group is sitting on millions and pays a lot of staffers and never do they account for what the spend.I know where most of them live I know their sneaky tricks!! so before you put the cart before the horse USE CAUTION!!!

    Penny
    Who has been wearing flame proof clothing for years!

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    • Posted by Eric on February 25, 2011 at 8:21 pm

      Penny, your post is so full of pure nonsense that it would be funny if you weren’t apparently serious. Your comment about knowing “where most of them live” is a poorly veiled threat. Did you have something meaningful to say, or did you just log in to spout nonsense?

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  25. Penny, I think you better jump back out, because everything you wrote is completely false.

    You know all of us and you know where we live???
    All of the officers, and the Board of Directors?
    Funny, because as Vice President, I don’t have a clue who you are.

    Do you also know each and every one of our 30,000 supporters?

    What we represent is working to end the cruelty and killing of dog racing. One mission, and one mission only.

    We are not an adoption group, so NO, WE DON’T PLACE GREYHOUNDS.

    The people who should be placing greyhounds are those who bred them and made money off of them. But a good many of those are no where to be found after the paychecks stop coming in, and so greyhound rescue groups have to step in and take on the responsibility – financially and in every other way – to rehabilitate and rehome these dogs.

    Next, we absolutely do account for every penny we spend. Our Form 990’s can be found online, and 85% of our 2009 expenditures were used directly for programs in support of our mission – including legislative advocacy, ballot initiatives, legal research and public education about the cruel and inhumane dog racing industry.

    4% of the 2009 expeditures paid for registration and reporting in racing states, legal and accounting support, and administrative costs for our one small office. We are committed to using resources efficiently and effectively.

    As usual, dog racing supporters come to discussions like this one with absolutely no defense of the industry’s cruel practices, and only armed with lies.

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    • Posted by Crystal on February 26, 2011 at 12:39 pm

      Wow,

      Seems like you just admitted that you use NONE of your money to help place greyhounds, but you sure spend a whole lot to endanger them . Yeah lets take the money from our 30,000 supporeters and tell them were using it to “help” greyhounds when essentailly Grey2k is causing them to be in jeopardy.

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      • Actually, Penny, since you said that you know so much about GREY2K USA, you would know that we’ve donated thousands of dollars to adoption groups across the country through the years.

        Still waiting for you to provide some proof to back up your lies…

      • Oh, my mistake – that’s Crystal jumping on the false accusations train.

        So I’ll put the same request to you, Crystal. Provide some evidence of what you’re saying.

        You can’t and you won’t – because you don’t have any.

      • Posted by Eric on February 26, 2011 at 2:04 pm

        How is Grey2K placing greyhounds in jeopardy, Crystal? Jeopardy would mean they could come to harm, as they do in racing. Or are you trying to spout the ridiculous claim that without racing farms and kennels (like yours), the breed would become “extinct”? That’s such a lame argument – basically that nobody could could or would breed the racing greyhound as a hobby or for a limited number of pets each year. No, the greyhound wouldn’t become extinct, just racing, which exploits this wonderful breed for human profit.

  26. Posted by Eric on February 28, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    So, Penny jumps in, then drops out of sight. Crystal shows up, makes some ridiculous claims, and vanishes. Face it, these avid “pro-racing” folks can’t make any legitimate claims that their sport is anything other than cruel and inhumane.

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    • Posted by Noreen Marshall on February 28, 2011 at 9:36 pm

      I agree totally with you Eric – pro-racing folks cannot back up their claims so they suddenly become quiet. Well, it is just as well – greyhounds do not need people like them who are fighting to keep this cruel so-called sport going.

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